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Salary MSCA-GF very low!
Dear all,
I am a MSCA-GF, with an outgoing phase in USGS Boulder, CO and an incoming at LSCE-CNRS, Paris.
I just got my first salary and it is very low as they are applying 60% taxes on the initial grant. The results is that I cannot live in this US state with a family member in charge with that salary.
We are at present trying to negotiate with the CNRS so they either dont apply taxes on the family and mobility allowances or they use them directly to pay our rent, as stated in the annotated model grant agreement.
Has anybody have any experience with that? any information would be extremely appreciated.
I leave my email: ncatalangarcia@gmail.com
Best regards,
Núria
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Hi Thomas!
Thanks for your response!! Yes, I contacted them, they are awesome and really helpful.
In brief, I have managed for the CNRS to do a new contract and move money from the management part into the salary, well I am right now waiting to sign this up. I will be happy to share the specific details on salary calculations, people and institutions that were helpful, etc. via mail.
Cheers,
N
Hi Nuria,
As far as I know, you shouldn't be paying taxes while you are in the third country, and the monbility allowance is not subject to nornal taxing (but his depends on the country you're being taxed in, I'm in Ireland).
Hope they fix your contract for you.
By the way, I'm also going to the US and according to my calculations, the pay in the US should be US$ 3100 (without family allowance in my case)
Hi Dolores!
Thanks for your response!
The mobility allowance may or may not be subject to taxes depending on the country. In France, there is a specific law detailing that, and both allowances are taxed. My contract has been modified after the negotiations with CNRS and the ok of the PO.
Regarding the double taxation (I guess thats what you mean by 'you shouldnt be paying taxes when you are in the third country'), this applies to the income tax only (does not influence the calculation of your base salary). The taxes agreements, at least between France and the US and as far as I know, allow you to 'choose' (not in all cases) where you pay taxes, and it might happen that is retroactive, so, that they first take the tax from you (in France in my case) and at the end of the fiscal year you have to prove that you have been paying in the US.
If you dont have any kind of tax on the mobility allowance, those $3100 might be correct, have everything clarified and detailed before leaving!
If you need further details do not hesitate to mail me!
Cheers,
N
Hi Nuria,
Next year I will be in the same situation, but in USA - Spain MSCA-GF. If you can send to me any information about the final salary that you could negotiate with your local host, and the taxes that you will have to pay, it will be bery helpully. As you, I'm also in charge of a family member.
my email is: imasmitja@hotmail.com
In my case: Living allowance = 4655€. Mobility allowance = 600€ and family allowance = 500€. These values are without tax. I'm not sure exactly the final amount that I will have in USA.
Thanks in advance,
Ivan
EDIT: ups just saw that this post is 4 years old :) But maybe someone can still comment.
Hi Ivan,
I am going to start a MSCA GF in New Zealand soon, the beneficiary is the University of Madrid, Spain. You have to expect that your gross salary will be reduced by about 30% from what the MSCA grant gives you. They deduce the employER's social contributions from your grant money to calculate your gross salary. This social contribution is unfortunately extremely high in Spain (30%). I am currently trying to figure out whether at least parts of it can be waived for the outgoing phase.
Maybe someone can comment on that.
Cheers,
Florian
Hi Núria,
just found this link:
https://cogtales.wordpress.com/2017/03/28/moving-to-us-postdoc-marie-sklodowska-curie-global-fellow/
I hope this helps!
I would be happy if you could tell me when you found a solution because I guess I will face similar problems after my grant will start next year.
Cheers,
Thomas